Hi Sally! Thanks for thinkin' of me! And Oh "Goth!" Yep, lots of Goth here...altho' I have to admit...not seeing as much this year at the High School level as I have in the past....but I sure am glad none of my guys have gone this route...they'd draw way more attention to themselves and then no one would notice MY pink HAIR! LOL! Have an awesome day! =))
Cool photo. Goth? Depends on the school and the student population. NEVER in the private school where I used to teach. Some diversity there but not as much as some public schools. Very little in the lower elementary grades.l
ohh of course you can find them in Budapest, too. Especially after some concerts you can see them in groups.:) Ame..even among 1000 Goths I would recognise your PINK HAIR.:)
There are a few groups in our town. They're good kids and never bother anyone. My eldest daughter was into it for a while. We just let her alone and never comment on it and her style preference changed. Isn't it wonderful that we are free to choose to dress any way we like?
As my son says "Better a Goth than an "emo". "Emos" - short for "Emotionals", apparently - are kids (especially girls) who go round being very emotional, cutting themselves and having BIG problems.
These kids who meet here are lively, intellignet and really switched on. And aware of themselves as an "attraction" !
"Emos" - short for "Emotionals", apparently - are kids (especially girls) who go round being very emotional, cutting themselves and having BIG problems.
Emo is just the latest trend. They don't all cut themselves and whether you have big problems or not does not decide what category you fit into. There are actually more emo guys from what I've seen.
I think it's wrong to base opinions on peoples 'issues' according to what colours they wear and bands they listen to. I only own black clothes, listen to metal as do my friends. However, I'm a happy person and am not into self harm in the slightest. This is why I hate stereotyping. It allows people to get the wrong impression on others.
umm people goths if they are true goths would not be seen dead sitting on the town hall steps all you fucking emos took it over when you decided you were mentaly unstable go find some where else and yeh can you tell a goth from a punk from an emo i can can u ? obviously not
Sorry, but you fail at distinguishing between (semi)modern sub-cultures. Goth is all but dead in the teen generation of today. The kids sitting on the town hall steps usually refer to themselves as "emos" or "scenesters/scenexcore", which can vary person to person.
..shutup? the kids that hang around town hall steps are pretty much as gothic as you get these days in sydney, other than those that hang around Newtown. but the ones that hang around Newtown are usually older (20-30 year old range) and have an established history of the gothic culture.
lots of teenagers hang around town hall and hyde park masquerading as 'emo's', i think its great that theres a bit of definition and some 'goths' are making an appearance.
unfortunately a large majority of these 'goths' are nothing more than mallgoths however.. 12 and 13 year old boys and girls who listen to the likes of slipknot and metallica, claiming to be goths.
where are the heavy dark metal fans? goth isnt just about town hall steps! i like the diversity. stop claiming that these goth kids are nothing but posers. their expressing themselves in their own individual manner!
Okat, I've read all your opinions on this matter and have formed my own response to this matter. I have been on the Sydney Goth "scene" for three years now so I know what I'm talking about here. Fair enough, some of the Town hall kids may be "real" goths, but the fact they associate themselves with the Town Hall/Utopia group makes them hated by most. Why? Because majority of that group spend their days drinking in Hyde Park, screaming at people from Town Hall steps and when they were outside Utopia they actually scared customers off, losing the shop alot of buisness. If you want to find a "real" goth in Sydney, hit Newtown or the clubs, Town Hall is just disgusting.
ken used to be emo and now hes all like kill the emos im soo goth.. why are people like this, like people were all like OMG im soo emo now there all like im soo hardcore and straightedge even tho i go an drink a six pack of beer when noones looking!
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"isnt this sposed to be something about goths all over the world? not wether or not you like hardcore kids?"
Well they could use a better example of a goth then. And not a the fucking town hall steps/emo central.
Ken isn't cool anyway, he's being a cunt to everyone. He doesn't realise who his true friends are. And he needs to shut the fuck up about his girl problems.
everyone posting here is queer. instead of talking about goths your talking about your like/hate for ken. hahahaha, the lady that posted this was a fucking tourist. please dont get angry at her for not spending her whole time in sydney looking for 'a better example' of goths? in sydney city, town hall and hyde park is about as gothic as you get.
seems like everyone has a hidden agenda with ken. he's not emo enough, not goth enough, not a good enough friend, worries too much about girls?
HELLO? KEN? I THINK YOU NEED TO SPEAK TO SOME OF YOUR FRIENDS, BEFORE THEY POST ANOTHER ANONYMOUS COMMENT ON A PHOTO OF YOU TAKEN BY A TOURIST!!!
this is Ken here... not that youd be able to tell, as these are all anonymous posts.
there arent many goths in sydney. very few. based upon my experiences of sydney, and what ive been told of other parts of the world. i dont know why that is exactly, possibly because of the abuse alternative culture gets in sydney. i made a thread about my experiences, you can read it at
however sydney does get a lot of emo/hardcore/scene kids, who usually come to gather around the town hall steps. these are just kids into the latest trends. goth isnt trendy. emo is trendy.
now, that said! i doubt youd find a more original, artistic, passionate, deep and thoughtful individual than what you have right here, Ken. im not so sure that makes me goth however... labels mean nothing! dressing up is fun =)
goth hasent died out yet so there still trendy emos will die out its a faze and will past punk s not dead and once in a blue moon goths will rise fuck off emos we will have our steps back you are influenced by trends bloody teenie boppers the goths that arnt infulenced are the true ones least they can stay something and stick with it
That wasn't what I asked. And yes, I have noticed your absence. For one, Hyde Park is deffinately lacking the stench of Passion Pop and vomit. =] It's not a pleasant change, of course.
well, actually Sarah. theres a reason i havent replied to
1. your myspace messages to me
2. your myspace comments to me
3. your gothic.net comments
actually, anonymous. if you go to my myspace you'll also find quite a number of 'i hate you ken, go die stupid tryhard emo cunt' comments amongst the usual. i never delete hate comments.
the hate only makes me stronger.
(that and i know everybody loves me even if they dont admit it)
OMGGGZZZZZZ LYK KEN R U OKAYZZ BUBI????????????// WEL U MEEEENIZ LEVE HIM ALONZ K COZ HE DUZNT NEED UR SHIT1! LV U SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH KENNELS XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Y WUD IT B A JOKE I LV MY KENNELS HE IZ MA LYF N WUD I JK BOUT SUMFIN LYK DAT I DNT FINK SO XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
wow, this is a tad amusing. i didn't think this would become some serious thing. insulting ken? hello? how low ! not just ken. but anyone. youre insulting him over the internet?! so mature.
hey look its ken, the guy everyone pays out in the city. I wonder when he'll come to realise his 'perfect girl' doesnt exist, or rather, wouldnt give him the light of day! his standards are way too high for someone of his callibre. its like a homeless guy asking for caviar. he should be grateful with what he gets.
okay okay, so i dont live in sydney though i travel there alot to stay with some friends we go to town hall steps usually to meet up with people then leave
/I think it's really unbelievable that you can sterotype these people as if you no what there probelms are you can't say there emo, goth or scene and whatever else you can come up with! seriously what does it have to do with you? They sit there, it's not hurting you so what the fuck man
So they dont walk around like fucking zombies doing the usualy deeds you other people do who really cares if that's what they want to do then so be it?
Hi Sally! Thanks for thinkin' of me! And Oh "Goth!" Yep, lots of Goth here...altho' I have to admit...not seeing as much this year at the High School level as I have in the past....but I sure am glad none of my guys have gone this route...they'd draw way more attention to themselves and then no one would notice MY pink HAIR! LOL! Have an awesome day! =))
ReplyDeleteCool photo. Goth? Depends on the school and the student population. NEVER in the private school where I used to teach. Some diversity there but not as much as some public schools. Very little in the lower elementary grades.l
ReplyDeleteNot as popular in Singapore, but you do see them around.
ReplyDeletethere are lots of them in Vancouver and Tokyo, but not in HK
ReplyDeleteohh of course you can find them in Budapest, too. Especially after some concerts you can see them in groups.:)
ReplyDeleteAme..even among 1000 Goths I would recognise your PINK HAIR.:)
it's so comming back....I've enjoyed traveling threw your blog...great pictures...
ReplyDeleteTruth is, except for a brief spell in the 70's it has never been fashionable -isn't that the attraction?
ReplyDeletehmm not so much so - but i do find their style very interesting
ReplyDeleteThere are a few groups in our town. They're good kids and never bother anyone. My eldest daughter was into it for a while. We just let her alone and never comment on it and her style preference changed. Isn't it wonderful that we are free to choose to dress any way we like?
ReplyDeleteIs the Goth look fashionable in your city? I do not think so, Sally.
ReplyDeleteAs my son says "Better a Goth than an "emo". "Emos" - short for "Emotionals", apparently - are kids (especially girls) who go round being very emotional, cutting themselves and having BIG problems.
ReplyDeleteThese kids who meet here are lively, intellignet and really switched on. And aware of themselves as an "attraction" !
"Emos" - short for "Emotionals", apparently - are kids (especially girls) who go round being very emotional, cutting themselves and having BIG problems.
ReplyDeleteEmo is just the latest trend. They don't all cut themselves and whether you have big problems or not does not decide what category you fit into. There are actually more emo guys from what I've seen.
Goth:
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h141/corporate_whore/goth.jpg
Emo:
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h141/corporate_whore/emo.jpg
I think it's wrong to base opinions on peoples 'issues' according to what colours they wear and bands they listen to.
I only own black clothes, listen to metal as do my friends. However, I'm a happy person and am not into self harm in the slightest. This is why I hate stereotyping. It allows people to get the wrong impression on others.
umm people goths if they are true goths would not be seen dead sitting on the town hall steps all you fucking emos took it over when you decided you were mentaly unstable go find some where else and yeh can you tell a goth from a punk from an emo i can can u ? obviously not
ReplyDeleteSorry, but you fail at distinguishing between (semi)modern sub-cultures. Goth is all but dead in the teen generation of today. The kids sitting on the town hall steps usually refer to themselves as "emos" or "scenesters/scenexcore", which can vary person to person.
ReplyDeleteoh ken
ReplyDeletesuch a babe
oh gosh look it's ken the oh so fantastic gaylord
ReplyDelete..shutup?
ReplyDeletethe kids that hang around town hall steps are pretty much as gothic as you get these days in sydney, other than those that hang around Newtown.
but the ones that hang around Newtown are usually older (20-30 year old range) and have an established history of the gothic culture.
lots of teenagers hang around town hall and hyde park masquerading as 'emo's', i think its great that theres a bit of definition and some 'goths' are making an appearance.
unfortunately a large majority of these 'goths' are nothing more than mallgoths however.. 12 and 13 year old boys and girls who listen to the likes of slipknot and metallica, claiming to be goths.
where are the heavy dark metal fans? goth isnt just about town hall steps!
i like the diversity. stop claiming that these goth kids are nothing but posers. their expressing themselves in their own individual manner!
who is that?
ReplyDeleteken and anna?
yeah its ken
ReplyDeletehttp://www.myspace.com/thosepinkpants
and anna.
town hall.
ReplyDeletehmm,
i wonder if theres another large gang of 13 year old pseudo emo's around the corner?
Okat, I've read all your opinions on this matter and have formed my own response to this matter.
ReplyDeleteI have been on the Sydney Goth "scene" for three years now so I know what I'm talking about here.
Fair enough, some of the Town hall kids may be "real" goths, but the fact they associate themselves with the Town Hall/Utopia group makes them hated by most. Why? Because majority of that group spend their days drinking in Hyde Park, screaming at people from Town Hall steps and when they were outside Utopia they actually scared customers off, losing the shop alot of buisness.
If you want to find a "real" goth in Sydney, hit Newtown or the clubs, Town Hall is just disgusting.
haha its ken an annaaa i love anna and ken ur lame.
ReplyDeletePeople who hang at town hall are fucking losers.
Well most people seriously go back to fucking kings cross you bunch of hoe bags.
ken used to be emo and now hes all like kill the emos im soo goth..
ReplyDeletewhy are people like this, like people were all like OMG im soo emo now there all like im soo hardcore and straightedge even tho i go an drink a six pack of beer when noones looking!
hey! kens cool! leave him alone
ReplyDeleteisnt this sposed to be something about goths all over the world?
not wether or not you like hardcore kids?
KEN IS COOL
ReplyDeleteKEN IS COOL
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well that was obviously ken.
ReplyDeleteit really wasnt
ReplyDelete"isnt this sposed to be something about goths all over the world?
ReplyDeletenot wether or not you like hardcore kids?"
Well they could use a better example of a goth then. And not a the fucking town hall steps/emo central.
Ken isn't cool anyway, he's being a cunt to everyone. He doesn't realise who his true friends are. And he needs to shut the fuck up about his girl problems.
"hmm,
ReplyDeletei wonder if theres another large gang of 13 year old pseudo emo's around the corner?"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. <3
everyone posting here is queer. instead of talking about goths your talking about your like/hate for ken. hahahaha, the lady that posted this was a fucking tourist. please dont get angry at her for not spending her whole time in sydney looking for 'a better example' of goths? in sydney city, town hall and hyde park is about as gothic as you get.
ReplyDeleteseems like everyone has a hidden agenda with ken. he's not emo enough, not goth enough, not a good enough friend, worries too much about girls?
HELLO? KEN?
I THINK YOU NEED TO SPEAK TO SOME OF YOUR FRIENDS,
BEFORE THEY POST ANOTHER ANONYMOUS COMMENT ON A PHOTO OF YOU TAKEN BY A TOURIST!!!
'like im soo hardcore and straightedge even tho i go an drink a six pack of beer when noones looking!
ReplyDeleteYes!
that is TOTALLY what hardcore straightedge kids do!
drink six packs of beer all alone with nobody to get drunk with!!
idiot!?
this is Ken here... not that youd be able to tell, as these are all anonymous posts.
ReplyDeletethere arent many goths in sydney. very few. based upon my experiences of sydney, and what ive been told of other parts of the world. i dont know why that is exactly, possibly because of the abuse alternative culture gets in sydney. i made a thread about my experiences, you can read it at
http://www.gothic.net/boards/showthread.php?t=3998
however sydney does get a lot of emo/hardcore/scene kids, who usually come to gather around the town hall steps. these are just kids into the latest trends. goth isnt trendy. emo is trendy.
now, that said! i doubt youd find a more original, artistic, passionate, deep and thoughtful individual than what you have right here, Ken. im not so sure that makes me goth however... labels mean nothing! dressing up is fun =)
goth hasent died out yet so there still trendy emos will die out its a faze and will past punk s not dead and once in a blue moon goths will rise fuck off emos we will have our steps back you are influenced by trends bloody teenie boppers the goths that arnt infulenced are the true ones least they can stay something and stick with it
ReplyDeleteShut the fuck up, you self-indulgent cunt. You're not deep or thoughtful.
ReplyDeletei wish my grass was emo it would cut its self haha fuckers
ReplyDeleteat least im not emo fucker
ReplyDeleteHaha. Ken.
ReplyDeleteWhy does your internet-confidence not transfer to your in-person-confidence?
Why does it not translate?
This has puzzled me often.
puzzled you often, has it? how often? because i havent been out of the house in two months.
ReplyDeletebut yes, i am super-amazing, you love me, im the best etc.
That wasn't what I asked.
ReplyDeleteAnd yes, I have noticed your absence.
For one, Hyde Park is deffinately lacking the stench of Passion Pop and vomit.
=]
It's not a pleasant change, of course.
okay well if you are asking about my confidence you must be talking about ken and the ladies, right?
ReplyDeleteand you are sarah, arent you. i can just tell by your writing. and that bit about vomiting.
hahaha,
ReplyDeletewhat is this like,
the place to admit your hate to ken?
...behind your 'anonymous' barricades?
reeeal brave guys.
I don't hate Ken, I just noticed Hyde Park smelled less of Passion Pop.
ReplyDeleteI actually quite like Ken.
Yes, yes, that would be me. =]
ReplyDeleteDoes this mean you're going to stop replying? Because that becomes quite irritating after a while.
well, actually Sarah. theres a reason i havent replied to
ReplyDelete1. your myspace messages to me
2. your myspace comments to me
3. your gothic.net comments
actually, anonymous. if you go to my myspace you'll also find quite a number of 'i hate you ken, go die stupid tryhard emo cunt' comments amongst the usual. i never delete hate comments.
the hate only makes me stronger.
(that and i know everybody loves me even if they dont admit it)
A reason, you say?
ReplyDeletePraytell, what reason would that be?
sarah? what? no!
ReplyDeleteken is mine!
NOT REALLY THOUGH!
ReplyDeleteken is so six months ago
*is confused*
ReplyDeleteI don't undersand.
SO MUCH HATE! :O
ReplyDeleteOMFG NITE! <3
haha all you people are confused and haha
ReplyDeleteOMGGGZZZZZZ LYK KEN R U OKAYZZ BUBI????????????//
ReplyDeleteWEL U MEEEENIZ LEVE HIM ALONZ K COZ HE DUZNT NEED UR SHIT1!
LV U SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH KENNELS
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX!!!!!!!!!!!!11
I HOPE THAT LAST COMMENT WAS A JOKE.
ReplyDeleteY WUD IT B A JOKE I LV MY KENNELS HE IZ MA LYF N WUD I JK BOUT SUMFIN LYK DAT I DNT FINK SO XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
ReplyDeletethat is MA BABE ken there.
ReplyDeleteall these haterz are jealous of him obviously. because he PULLED THE BABE and none of you did (!)
Oh yes. Ken pulls chicks all the time. That explains why he never stops bulletining about how hard his love life is.
ReplyDeleteif you hate his bulletins so much, dont read them, you arrogant prick.
ReplyDeleteits fairly evident everyone loves ken,
ReplyDeleteor they wouldnt keep posting anonymous comments about him or reading his bulletins.
or stalking his transition from emo to goth.
uhhh. :|
its fairly evident everyone loves ken,
ReplyDeleteor they wouldnt keep posting anonymous comments about him or reading his bulletins. !!
..or stalking his transition from emo to goth.
uhhh. :| !
ken is gay and acts cool onmyspace but is rude n stuff andddddddddd plays drunk.
ReplyDeletewhat!!! plays drunk!!!
ReplyDeleteNEVER!!!
ill leave that to the whores in the park.
ken if ur so tough right your msn here and ill add u and we can sort this shit out like men cuz you need to learn some respect. peace
ReplyDeletemmm men
ReplyDeleteken is cool
ReplyDeletei love ken
ReplyDeletewow, this is a tad amusing.
ReplyDeletei didn't think this would become some serious thing.
insulting ken?
hello?
how low !
not just ken.
but anyone.
youre insulting him over the internet?!
so mature.
"ken if ur so tough right your msn here"
ReplyDeletethis makes me laugh.
you are posting an anonymous comment on a tourists photoblog.
oh yeah, youre real tough. you wont even state your name. OHWAIT! that wouldnt help, THIS IS ALL ANONYMOUS.
if anyone needs to contact ken, he has a mobile phone, and if you are important then you'd have his number.
if you've seen him 'play drunk' you must know him
ReplyDeletewhy dont you say any of this to his face?
hey look its ken, the guy everyone pays out in the city. I wonder when he'll come to realise his 'perfect girl' doesnt exist, or rather, wouldnt give him the light of day!
ReplyDeletehis standards are way too high for someone of his callibre. its like a homeless guy asking for caviar. he should be grateful with what he gets.
well, yes.
ReplyDeleteor, the homeless guy could forever love, appreciate and admire the one person who dared to give him more than just the average.
was that Sarah who commented the last comment? if so, ive got more respect for her now.
ReplyDeleteno, it wasn't sarah.
ReplyDeletewe're friends kinda, but i dont think its necceccary for me to tell you who i am. i made my point! =)
okay so you're not Sarah, but i know who you are =)
ReplyDeleteDOUBT IT. who am i?
ReplyDeletehmm okay nevermind...
ReplyDeletenooo. tell me! if you guess right i'll admit it. :)
ReplyDeletehttp://www.myspace.com/yourxpullingxthextriggerx
ReplyDeleteADD ME ON MYSPACE.
okay okay, so i dont live in sydney
though i travel there alot to stay with some friends
we go to town hall steps usually to meet up with people then leave
/I think it's really unbelievable that you can sterotype these people as if you no what there probelms are you can't say there emo, goth or scene and whatever else you can come up with!
seriously what does it have to do with you?
They sit there, it's not hurting you so what the fuck man
So they dont walk around like fucking zombies doing the usualy deeds you other people do
who really cares
if that's what they want to do
then so be it?
why do you have to be so fucking involved.
SEE YOU BYE.